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#250402 - 01/31/11 01:12 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: VostreRoy]
Malas


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 1272
He makes a habit out of fighting the same guys. Three times he fought a guy going FF against PG. Four times in a row he fought a guy using MMartist, and he fought Shannon Parker three times. The guy has only had what, 15 fights? Besides, the camps in these fights have pretty similar names.

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4131049

Maybe you should either look further or provide more detail before you call me out for not knowing what I'm doing.
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#250418 - 01/31/11 02:58 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Malas]
VostreRoy



Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 1907
Loc: Quebec, Canada
Ok. First, definition of "feeding" from the rules on the main page:

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If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. Feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly.


First, before calling someone a feeder, tell him on his camp page that you believe that he is a feeder and tell him to stop. By his reaction, you'll see if it is on purpose or not.

I got to agree that Deaths and Death Cluths are pretty shady, but they don't always fight the same camps. They fought each-other sometime, seems to be belonging to the same guy. But fighting each other some times is not against the rules, even if its not allowed inside the community (for good reasons). Feeder? No, but it would be good to leave a message on his camp page to remember him.

The guy he fought 4x, from camp Skull Squad. Judging by his number of fight, the fact that he invested money (to at least upload an image on his camp page) tells me that it is a serious camp. They wanted to do a couple of match agains't eachother. Or, he realised that this camp seems to be figuring out MMartist and went for easy wins. Not necesseraly the best way to play, but not agains't the rules.

He fought Squirelly Wrath twice at the beginning of his career. I had fought this camp quite a lot of time. The fact that most of his fighters and his camp are on a positive record, so aint a feeder here.

I can go on, but I think you got my point. So in conclusion, it ain't the best camps I've seen around, but I doubt it is a case of feeding.

The main goal of this long ass post is to not let this thread being flood of camp that you think are feeder before having talked to the guy or a good investigation. It is good to look for them, you already pointed some in the past that were indeed pretty obvious, but in this case, I don't think so.

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#250420 - 01/31/11 03:17 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: VostreRoy]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
Originally Posted By: VostreRoy
Ok. First, definition of "feeding" from the rules on the main page:

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If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. Feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly.


First, before calling someone a feeder, tell him on his camp page that you believe that he is a feeder and tell him to stop. By his reaction, you'll see if it is on purpose or not.

I got to agree that Deaths and Death Cluths are pretty shady, but they don't always fight the same camps. They fought each-other sometime, seems to be belonging to the same guy. But fighting each other some times is not against the rules, even if its not allowed inside the community (for good reasons). Feeder? No, but it would be good to leave a message on his camp page to remember him.

The guy he fought 4x, from camp Skull Squad. Judging by his number of fight, the fact that he invested money (to at least upload an image on his camp page) tells me that it is a serious camp. They wanted to do a couple of match agains't eachother. Or, he realised that this camp seems to be figuring out MMartist and went for easy wins. Not necesseraly the best way to play, but not agains't the rules.

He fought Squirelly Wrath twice at the beginning of his career. I had fought this camp quite a lot of time. The fact that most of his fighters and his camp are on a positive record, so aint a feeder here.

I can go on, but I think you got my point. So in conclusion, it ain't the best camps I've seen around, but I doubt it is a case of feeding.

The main goal of this long ass post is to not let this thread being flood of camp that you think are feeder before having talked to the guy or a good investigation. It is good to look for them, you already pointed some in the past that were indeed pretty obvious, but in this case, I don't think so.

Peace \m/


while its nice to notify someone on their page, its not needed. there are rules that are shown as to what is acceptable and what is not. a notification isnt needed, only nice.

the 2nd bolded part is not true what so ever. feeding is feeding period. whether you do it once a day or once a week. fighting your own 2 camps is against the rules! you put fighting each other is not against the rules if its only sometimes and that is very much so against the rules.

i agree with malas, while it might not be so obvious, it does look shady
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#250422 - 01/31/11 04:02 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
Malas


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 1272
I'll talk to him about it. Also note that I didn't post the camp link as Mkick requested on the first page of the thread, only the fighter record link or whatever it was that I posted. This did have a purpose because I was looking to collect a couple opinions on this one first, though it looked obvious enough to me. I understand that some people see red when others see pink.


Edited by Malas (01/31/11 04:09 PM)
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#250424 - 01/31/11 04:05 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Malas]
Malas


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 1272
While on the note that I've pointed out a few feeders in the past, I have no problem devoting some time to this and will continue to do it for you guys.
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#250485 - 01/31/11 09:55 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: MKick]
ChiefBD Administrator



Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 9501
Loc: PA
I agree with VRoy. I fought my camps against one another when i first opened up initial camps but I fought them both to win so I never thought anything about it because I did it so rarely. But when I finally got onto the forums and started realizing how people felt about it and kind of thought about it myself that it is unfair then I never did it again.

Point is is its not wrong until he knows its wrong cuz people that sign up to play this game don't necessarily immerse themselves into the forums and feel it necessary to abide by the veterans rules until they are aware how universal they are.

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#250506 - 02/01/11 04:45 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: ChiefBD]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
those arent veteran rules. its a game rule put in place by mkick. fighting your 2 camps against each other is against the rules, while it takes a certain % to get banned its still 100% against the rules.

the percentage part is put in place to give people a 2nd chance, not to give the assumption that its ok to feed.
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#250514 - 02/01/11 05:33 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
ChiefBD Administrator



Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 9501
Loc: PA
When you sign up to play the game it takes you right to the fighter page. If i remember correctly, no rules are listed anywhere on the camp page or within it. I learned by going to the forums but I didn't go to the forums for a long time after I started so my point being alot of new players are not gonna be aware of any the rules if they have no interest in being in its forum.

So you can't lump feeders that try to buck the system with guys that fight multiple camps because to alot of people new its not considered wrong because they aren't aware of how passionate people are about the game. It's good to let em know its wrong so they get the chance to do it the right way.

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#250515 - 02/01/11 05:49 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: ChiefBD]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
no no no, at the top of the page between where it says log out and tutorial it says rules.. the very first one listed is feeding!

Infractions of any of these rules can result in the offending account being banned permanently.

Feeding is not allowed

If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. Feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly. Using it to keep a title inside of your camps is also shady and is not acceptable. Challenging people that share the same computer or network can also result in flagging your camp as a feeder, however if you're not fighting them too often you have nothing to worry about. This comes down more to common sense than anything.

my point is, you and the other say its not bad if its only a little or whatever or that its a veteran rule. when that is not the case. feeding is feeding and its put on the main page. its not about players being passionate. its called against the rules.

not much else to discuss about this.



Edited by Monster (02/01/11 05:50 AM)
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#250527 - 02/01/11 06:45 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
ChiefBD Administrator



Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 9501
Loc: PA
lol Thats funny I never noticed the rules on top there. I'm glad you pointed that out and i've been playing this for awhile and never noticed it.

I agree with the rule my point is obviously some people can easily miss the rule and play the game a different way. They should get the chance to be made aware before whatever type of punishment is made. Nothing wrong with that.

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