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#206742 - 06/10/10 03:10 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
Mr. Wunderful



Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 4777
OK, that makes sense. Sorry.
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#206743 - 06/10/10 03:23 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Mr. Wunderful]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
the difference though is that this guy has made 2 camps and is fighting against each other. in certain/special circumstances like this Mkick should make his own call, if he feeds 5% of the time, well thats just 5% too much.

i get the roomate thing and work thing. but this is a case that he is clearly fighting himself and if im not mistaken for title shots. that is just inexcusable, and there is just no excuse that can be given for it to make any sense.

running #'s to check % of feeding is fine and makes sense. but when we as a community show this type of evidence on the matter, there is really no reason something more cant be done.
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#206745 - 06/10/10 03:31 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
^^ How about PMing Mkick? let him know why you think he should be banned then? It really doesnt help to keep getting upset about it if people dont stand up and say something about it right?

if this guy is a new player then try to educate him, if he doesnt listen then bring it up to mkick. again i clicked on his camp link and didnt see any msgs from anyone saying feeding is against the rules, so all i can do is take the steps i would take and thats to first educate the new player, if he continues to feed, have mkick be made aware and give him the proper warning, and if he still continues to do it then its up to mkick to ban him or not.

seriously guys its not that difficult to follow how to go about a feeder.
its not fair to say mkick doesnt care about people cheating as he has banned camps before.
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#206756 - 06/10/10 04:03 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
The Robj23



Registered: 04/27/08
Posts: 1674
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#206761 - 06/10/10 04:12 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: MKick]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
i wont be pm'ing mkick about it. he reads the forums and the threads, he eventually will read this if he hasnt already. also whos to say someone has pm'ed him about it. you are making the assumption that no one has pm'ed him or that no one had wrote on his page.

regardless, whats this thread for then...post feeders but if its bad enough pm mkick?? kind of defeats itself right?

very first post of this new thread created by Mkick himself. so that tells me, no PM is needed. he will read this and should make the right decision!

Originally Posted By: MKick
Hey Gang. I removed the old thread as it was long and unruly. (I did check them all since my last ban frenzy, and banned accordingly).

If you notice feeders post a link to their camp page.

I'll check this thread every so often and ban accordingly.


also make no mistake im not upset about it, just think a simple of its the % isnt right in this case. i saw what you (crip) posted and fully agree, but i feel this is obviously a different circumstance.


Edited by teshore (06/10/10 04:15 PM)
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#206764 - 06/10/10 04:14 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
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Edited by teshore (06/10/10 04:14 PM)
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#206769 - 06/10/10 04:24 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
this thread is to point out the FEEDERS, how many new players do you see feed off the start? if no one tells them its wrong, then they will keep doing it. as many people complain about lack of players, everyone sure is quick to ban people. NOT all people read the forums, for the first month i played i dont think i read one thing from the forums. so if i was feeding that first 2-3 weeks, and no one tells me to stop, why would i?

again, the numbers i was shown of him "feeding" was so minimal you guys really wouldnt believe it.

mkicks program does not run automatially, he has to run it manually. So what do you guys want from the guy? stop making updates that you all cry for, and instead run every link that is posted on here instead?

PMing him will let mkick know that its a serious enough case that he may have to take action on it, other than that its up to the community to educate new players about rules and the do's and dont's.

again if you feel like HE has to be banned then make your case to it to mkick, it isnt that hard to PM him.
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#206773 - 06/10/10 04:30 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
Teshore



Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 8500
Loc: Las Vegas
Originally Posted By: Crippler
this thread is to point out the FEEDERS, how many new players do you see feed off the start? if no one tells them its wrong, then they will keep doing it. as many people complain about lack of players, everyone sure is quick to ban people. NOT all people read the forums, for the first month i played i dont think i read one thing from the forums. so if i was feeding that first 2-3 weeks, and no one tells me to stop, why would i?

again, the numbers i was shown of him "feeding" was so minimal you guys really wouldnt believe it.

mkicks program does not run automatially, he has to run it manually. So what do you guys want from the guy? stop making updates that you all cry for, and instead run every link that is posted on here instead?

PMing him will let mkick know that its a serious enough case that he may have to take action on it, other than that its up to the community to educate new players about rules and the do's and dont's.

again if you feel like HE has to be banned then make your case to it to mkick, it isnt that hard to PM him.


this thread is to point out feeders that HE will look at from time to time and run numbers. Migrant has said that he wrote on dudes page before, quick to ban people? if he continues to do things that arent right then yes he should be banned. you delete all posts from your fighters pages and camps right, well can he not do the same?

if he has time to show you his numbers for "feeding" then he has time to say "hey guys, hes not bad, very minimal, drop it" right??

and lucky for you, you get to see the numbers. we dont, so lets not forget that you have information that is not shared with the community, so to you they are low % but to us he is feeding.

my point was more about the post of well it could be roomates and co-workers, when this obviously wasnt the case. if he was told and kept/keeps doing it. then yes he should be banned.

and whos crying? you are stating your opinion, im stating mine. to say we/i am crying about banning would be the same as me saying you are crying about us asking why nothings been done. i know it doesnt run itself. and no he shouldnt run for every link posted but running every 2 weeks shouldnt be too much to ask regardless of 1 link posted of 40.

and again WE shouldnt have to PM Mkick when he clearly states to post in here and he will check from time to time. HE doesnt want to babysit us and WE dont want to babysit him.


Edited by teshore (06/10/10 04:35 PM)
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#206777 - 06/10/10 04:49 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Teshore]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
i cant say if mig did or not can i? all I KNOW is i clicked his camp link and there were no messages on his camp page.

I happen to msg him and then that guy came on here and said his peace.

Has he continued to feed since i msgd him warning him it is against the rules and is a bannable offense?

Anyone can leave anyone a message saying Feeding is frowned upon, but unless it is CLEARLY stated it is against the rules and can result in that player being banned, then maybe he didnt take migs or anyone elses post seriously enough to stop or even post his side on the forums.

From where i see it, i gave him my warning, gave him the consequences if he continues to feed, sent mkick the info of his camps and he ran his report, and based on the numbers it wasnt a high % at this point, mkick probably decided that he could be just a new guy just learning the rules so giving him the benefit of the doubt is not a bad thing. It will allow a new player to conform to playing "the right way" and if he continues to feed and gets pointed out for it then let mkick at that point decide if he should get banned or not.

Unless the whole community is in agreement that at the first sign of feeding to ban that IP right away is the best thing for the game instead of possibly just educating them and getting a larger community in-game and in the forums, then maybe you guys can lynch out the new players and just ban them off the bat here then by all means go ahead and take that approach, i rather give people a 2nd chance, especially if they are a new camp/player, to learn and adjust and let them decide for themselves if they want to get banned or not.

Its not about luck tes that i saw the numbers, did you ever think maybe if you PMed mkick, he may provide you with the information also just to set your mind at ease?

dude you guys act like its a sin to PM mkick about certain things. I know he is a busy man, but if its a big enough deal that can affect the forum or his game or hurt either in any way im sure mkick will address it.
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#206805 - 06/10/10 05:58 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
FistK


Registered: 05/22/08
Posts: 4588
Loc: NY
Guys come on...I think we can all agree that Stan was feeding too much. Mkick just meant if an occasional buddy using the same computer wanted to fight each other it was fine and Stand was doing more than that which was wrong.

BUT, he is also new and has said he won't do it anymore. Let's not take im at his word and welcome him aboard please. We all know he has seen this thread now so if he does it again it will be a different story.

Until then let's drop this incident and welcome him to the community.

Thanks

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