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#205795 - 06/06/10 10:27 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Migrantworkers]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
^^ oh.. well in that case, yes,, mkick should be pmed about him. with the camp links and stuff so he can run his program on the IP's and ban him if he still wont recognize another warning
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#205797 - 06/06/10 10:32 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
TeamLastPlace


Registered: 05/25/10
Posts: 165
Loc: Las Vegas
He for sure reads the forum and should know better because in the general game discussion under the topic "hey people I just wanted to share this with you all" a guy says he is flaming about losing his title to him and the guy he challanged was 0-0 at the time...then he posts stuff on the guy's wall about what he is saying in the forum

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=61082

so the guy has read at least that topic on the forum

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#205799 - 06/06/10 10:35 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: TeamLastPlace]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
^^ i will PM this to mkick, as that is not just feeding but abuse lol. Thanks for pointing this out TLP
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#205813 - 06/06/10 11:54 AM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: TeamLastPlace]
Stan


Registered: 06/03/10
Posts: 5
Originally Posted By: TeamLastPlace
He for sure reads the forum and should know better because in the general game discussion under the topic "hey people I just wanted to share this with you all" a guy says he is flaming about losing his title to him and the guy he challenged was 0-0 at the time...then he posts stuff on the guy's wall about what he is saying in the forum

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=61082

so the guy has read at least that topic on the forum


Alright, I'm here now, and yes, I read everything said about me; however, it's not like a lot of you make it out to be. After the match with ShogunHua, he kept on going to my page to bash it, but you don't see it because I deleted all the comments, and yet, everybody assumes I was the one "flaming," while he's just faking it while trying to make himself look like a badass on the internet at the same time. What happened after the match was I just went to the guys' page and even said congratulations, but when I returned to my homepage, there was a message from him that read, "Thanks for the belt sucker," and every time he won a match against anybody, he kept on going to my profile and posting, "2-0 baby," "3-0 baby," and so on and so on. He even posted stuff like, "Take back yo chump change, n!ggah!" among other comments, but you get the point. The fact is he was being the asshole the whole time while I tried to even be nice about it at first, hence the congrats message on his guy's page, but he decided to be an immature dick about it, posting comments and even the forum link to him bragging on many of my pages, so everything that you see on his page is simply a response. I wasn't flaming nor was I mad about it, I rather found it funny that he so much prided himself on being a keyboard warrior. I was the one who later decided to do the mature thing about it, be the better man, not respond to him on his page anymore, and delete everything he posted and kept on posting on the wall, yet he's the one who still keeps posting about it on this forum and on my page (I restricted him), and even saying on here in his bragging thread, "How about everyone go on his team home and write Can Crusher im sure he would be happy about that ,)" That proves what kind of person he is - immature and nothing more than a keyboard warrior. This is just a post to clarify all the assumptions, as I don't plan to argue about it (I have better things to do), which I'm sure ShogunHua would just love. He can write what he wants after this, I don't care. Fact is, he was the one who always wanted to start something, whether it be on a camp change or on a forum topic. On his profile when I told him to eff of my page, it was my last response to him posting crap on my page.

As for the Big Ace guy, yeah, we had a few of our own arguments flowing on our pages as well, but that was a long time ago, I stopped a long time ago because he kept on arguing with me over nothing and I was getting tired of it, and never mentioned it since because I don't care and I simply don't need that type of crap on my page. I've moved on to better things, I don't know why he needs to a grudge over the net, so hey, it's cool, I don't care, like I said.

"If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. If this is done on a very rare occasion, it is not an issue. However, feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly. Challenging people that share the same computer or network can also result in flagging your camp as a feeder, however if you're not fighting them too often you have nothing to worry about. This comes down more to common sense than anything." That's what it says on the "rules" page of the game. I don't have a high feeding percentage, so if it says if you don't do it that often you won't be banned, then why should I be? Like I said, I didn't feed that often, most of my wins were legit over other camps, so as far as the rules say, I logically thought I'd be safe, but if for some reason I get banned because all of you want me banned, it's cool, my feelings won't be hurt, I'm just saying I did follow the rules because of how they were stated. Meh, whatever, if I don't get banned, I won't fight any of my guys. This is not sucking up to not get banned, I'm just saying that if I don't get banned, I won't fight any of my guys even though it says you can sometimes in the rules, since everybody gets so sensitive about it. I never wanted any childish arguments spread on my page, hence me deleting them, I just wanted to play a game for fun is all, it's not that serious.

Apparently, giving 0-0 guys title shots is a glitch and knowingly taking advantage of glitches is against the rules. I simply didn't know it was a glitch. If I was allowed to challenge them, I thought I was allowed to challenge them, so I didn't knowingly take advantage of a glitch. I won't defend against 0-0 guys then. That is, if I don't get banned, seeing as how I am so unpopular amongst my e-haters. It's cool. It's just a game, and even though I find it funny how some of you like to bash me, I don't need all this publicity, guys. lol

One last thing. Crippler, thank you for taking a rather helpful approach to this rather being an asshole about it like some other people. Nobody "informed" me like they said, they just bashed me and posted shit on my page, but you were actually being professional about it and I can appreciate that, so thank you, I respect that you can approach something in a sophisticated way rather than spam up my page full of hate comments like others did.

Bottom line - If I don't get banned I want to play this game for fun, I'm not going to defend against 0-0 guys (that was a misunderstanding), I'm not going to feed even rarely like I did even though it said it was okay to do in the rules, and most importantly, I surely don't want to argue, I have better things on my mind.

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#205817 - 06/06/10 12:06 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Stan]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
^^ no worries stan.

But yeah you did bring up a good point about how the rules are stated, and it may actually need to be re-worded to prevent any confusion.

Feeding is against the rules, and what mkicks program does is calculates the % of how often the same IP fights each other, and myself or any of the other mods he may ask to look deeper into each fight just to see if it is feeding, or just a case of say friends/relatives/college roomates etc etc just playing each other before he does take the step to banning the IP.

as far as the flaming and arguing, you guys do have the option to restrict camps from posting on your page, so that might be another good step to avoid any unnecessary back and forth bickering.

I would suggest not to fight your own camps though, as it really gains nothing but people pointing it out and branding you as a "feeder". If you need help with styles, training, what beats what, etc etc there are a few help threads up, or just start threads in general help as we have a good majority of players who do help alot.
I know some people used it to learn/test styles so your not the first new player to have fought their own camp.
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#205818 - 06/06/10 12:07 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Stan]
TeamLastPlace


Registered: 05/25/10
Posts: 165
Loc: Las Vegas
Stan my point was that you do read the forum, I wasn't judging your back and forth with Shogun, we all get into one thing or another at sometime with someone. The only reason why I mentioned anything is because you are feeding or at least was feeding and it is hugely frounded on. I am sure if the feeding stops you will be ok in most peoples eyes.

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#205820 - 06/06/10 12:13 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: TeamLastPlace]
Migrantworkers



Registered: 02/13/09
Posts: 9581
Loc: DBA compound
well hopefully "to be fair and balanced" he gets the full system treatment....right?


because he was indeed told about feeding being wrong whether he will admit it or not

and continued to do it

which makes him no different than system unless you want to say "well he did it longer"


right
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#205823 - 06/06/10 12:19 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Crippler]
Stan


Registered: 06/03/10
Posts: 5
^ It's cool, TLP, it was a general response to everyone judging me, crapping up my page, and calling me shit on the forums with their assumptions, it wasn't aimed at you, but there was more than one person who did so.

Originally Posted By: Crippler
^^ no worries stan.

But yeah you did bring up a good point about how the rules are stated, and it may actually need to be re-worded to prevent any confusion.

Feeding is against the rules, and what mkicks program does is calculates the % of how often the same IP fights each other, and myself or any of the other mods he may ask to look deeper into each fight just to see if it is feeding, or just a case of say friends/relatives/college roomates etc etc just playing each other before he does take the step to banning the IP.

as far as the flaming and arguing, you guys do have the option to restrict camps from posting on your page, so that might be another good step to avoid any unnecessary back and forth bickering.

I would suggest not to fight your own camps though, as it really gains nothing but people pointing it out and branding you as a "feeder". If you need help with styles, training, what beats what, etc etc there are a few help threads up, or just start threads in general help as we have a good majority of players who do help alot.
I know some people used it to learn/test styles so your not the first new player to have fought their own camp.


Yeah, man, I'll be very careful not to do anything that causes immature comments on my page, that was never my intention. I just want to play this game for fun. Thanks for being reasonable and having a good approach towards this once again, I didn't see that from many other people. By the way, Crippler, this doesn't concern this topic, but can I talk to you about something in PM? I PMed mkick a couple days ago about it, but I never got a response.

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#205825 - 06/06/10 12:22 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Stan]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
sure send the PM stan
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#205830 - 06/06/10 12:31 PM Re: (New) Feeder Thread - Report them here [Re: Migrantworkers]
Stan


Registered: 06/03/10
Posts: 5
^ I sent the PM, Crippler, it's titled The Thing I Wanted to Talk About. Thanks, man. smile

Originally Posted By: migrantworkers
well hopefully "to be fair and balanced" he gets the full system treatment....right?


because he was indeed told about feeding being wrong whether he will admit it or not

and continued to do it

which makes him no different than system unless you want to say "well he did it longer"


right


You misconceived what I was saying, migrantworkers, I was saying that while the rules said (Crippler said they need to be reworded as it appears) it was okay to do it sometimes, yet I was getting all these hate comments being called many names. I was never informed in a sophisticated way about it before Crippler informed me. Sure, they called me a feeder or a cheater, and that's what you may call informing me, but they were just random people being immature and calling me names. Crippler was the first one to actually take a reasonable approach towards it and actually inform me how it really is and that the rules need to be re-worded.

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