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#214681 - 07/10/10 11:37 AM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Sadbutrue]
Mr. Wunderful



Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 4777
Here's my opinion on this.
When you have a competition that has a specific entry date and start date, and everybody in the field has to decide which of their recruits they have to chose by that certain date, to allow people to enter after that date does give them an advantage. Lots of people don't have the recruit option, and they have to make do with what they have by the entry cut off date. To allow people to continue to recruit and enter after that date is unfair to everybody who already entered their fighters. If all I get are garbage recruits up to the cut off date and I want to enter I'd have to pick one of them, who knows if the next day I get a monster recruit, or the day after, or whenever, it makes it unfair to make everybody but 1 or 2 people have to enter their fighters by a certain date. I haven't followed this whole thing but I do know the MCC thread was up for a couple weeks and there's really no reason why anybody who wanted to participate couldn't have had their fighter posted sometime before the cut off date. Even if you don't agree, the rules are there, very clearly and everybody else seemed to be able to get their fighters posted in time. The same thing has happened a few times before resulting in the same action, it shouldn't be a surprise or a problem. It has nothing to do with increasing the odds of winning or anything stupid like that.

I'm not sure what Crip is talking about in his situation (no offense), but to have 2 fighters you're trying to decide between and you choose 1, fight them both then try and change them because 1's better than the other is obviously totally not fair.

The competitions started and it doesn't look like all the complaining is going to change things this time around. Maybe you guys should PM your suggestions on how GF could improve the MCC next time around, but for now why not just let the people who are in it have fun participating.
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#214689 - 07/10/10 12:07 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participants [Re: madgenius]
Decommissioner



Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 2558
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If you could not take the time to check this thread in 2 and a half weeks then I don't think you should enter the competition anyways, you'll probably randomly drop out without saying anything. This applies to everyone, if you can't put in the time then oh well start your own competition.

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#214693 - 07/10/10 12:26 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Mr. Wunderful]
Sadbutrue


Registered: 01/29/08
Posts: 8812
Loc: Brampton
Originally Posted By: Mr.Wunderfull
Here's my opinion on this.
When you have a competition that has a specific entry date and start date, and everybody in the field has to decide which of their recruits they have to chose by that certain date, to allow people to enter after that date does give them an advantage. Lots of people don't have the recruit option, and they have to make do with what they have by the entry cut off date. To allow people to continue to recruit and enter after that date is unfair to everybody who already entered their fighters. If all I get are garbage recruits up to the cut off date and I want to enter I'd have to pick one of them, who knows if the next day I get a monster recruit, or the day after, or whenever, it makes it unfair to make everybody but 1 or 2 people have to enter their fighters by a certain date. I haven't followed this whole thing but I do know the MCC thread was up for a couple weeks and there's really no reason why anybody who wanted to participate couldn't have had their fighter posted sometime before the cut off date. Even if you don't agree, the rules are there, very clearly and everybody else seemed to be able to get their fighters posted in time. The same thing has happened a few times before resulting in the same action, it shouldn't be a surprise or a problem. It has nothing to do with increasing the odds of winning or anything stupid like that.

I'm not sure what Crip is talking about in his situation (no offense), but to have 2 fighters you're trying to decide between and you choose 1, fight them both then try and change them because 1's better than the other is obviously totally not fair.

The competitions started and it doesn't look like all the complaining is going to change things this time around. Maybe you guys should PM your suggestions on how GF could improve the MCC next time around, but for now why not just let the people who are in it have fun participating.


thatis exactly what i said...
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#214695 - 07/10/10 12:37 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Sadbutrue]
Train2K


Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 635
Gave my guy his walking papers so I'm out.
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#214712 - 07/10/10 02:34 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Train2K]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
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I'm not sure what Crip is talking about in his situation (no offense), but to have 2 fighters you're trying to decide between and you choose 1, fight them both then try and change them because 1's better than the other is obviously totally not fair.


It was a joke Wun, my "2nd" MCC guy is my MW that will be in competition with Sovs guy since his guy was not allowed to join in late.
Everyone knows the rules, and it must be followed. and thats that, i wont say anything else, ive brought it up to GF already and he felt his decisions are for the best of MCC and ill leave it at that.

i never said i wanted to switch my LHW out, he is 4-1 and my mw is 5-0 lol i think both are doing just fine smile
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#214722 - 07/10/10 04:08 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Crippler]
Mr. Wunderful



Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 4777
Sorry, I wasn't sure if that was real or not lol. Unfortunately for you guys I don't want to trade my MCC guy either! 5-1: http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_stats.php?id=673209
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#214778 - 07/10/10 07:53 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participa [Re: Mr. Wunderful]
Chachi



Registered: 03/25/08
Posts: 5612
Originally Posted By: Mr.Wunderfull
Here's my opinion on this.
When you have a competition that has a specific entry date and start date, and everybody in the field has to decide which of their recruits they have to chose by that certain date, to allow people to enter after that date does give them an advantage. Lots of people don't have the recruit option, and they have to make do with what they have by the entry cut off date. To allow people to continue to recruit and enter after that date is unfair to everybody who already entered their fighters. If all I get are garbage recruits up to the cut off date and I want to enter I'd have to pick one of them, who knows if the next day I get a monster recruit, or the day after, or whenever, it makes it unfair to make everybody but 1 or 2 people have to enter their fighters by a certain date. I haven't followed this whole thing but I do know the MCC thread was up for a couple weeks and there's really no reason why anybody who wanted to participate couldn't have had their fighter posted sometime before the cut off date. Even if you don't agree, the rules are there, very clearly and everybody else seemed to be able to get their fighters posted in time. The same thing has happened a few times before resulting in the same action, it shouldn't be a surprise or a problem. It has nothing to do with increasing the odds of winning or anything stupid like that.

The competitions started and it doesn't look like all the complaining is going to change things this time around. Maybe you guys should PM your suggestions on how GF could improve the MCC next time around, but for now why not just let the people who are in it have fun participating.


The only thing anyone knows about their recruits is weight and starting stats. I think the people who have the greatest advantage are actually those who sign up the earliest. Even if you join later you still have to climb up the ladder according to the rules. It would be a big gamble to continuously prolong your entry into the race. Also there could be newer players who want to join but their rosters are all filled with 10 fighters who are doing well for them and they have to wait for one of them to die.

As for specific situations. Since the comp has started (all) the existing rules should be stuck with. There was ample time to sign up. Maybe if Soviet said "Hold a spot for me!" but then forgot to post his fighter by the start date he should be let in. But if he didn't, then no.

I posed the rolling join question to start a discussion and it looks like most everyone had well thought out answers.
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#214926 - 07/11/10 01:13 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participants [Re: The Godfather]
m00nd0g andy


Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 280
Loc: Mississippi
after losing twice by submission (to pl fighters), m00nd0g Haydn bounced back by winning his last fight by kimura in the 3rd round.

m00nd0g Haydn is hoping to get a fight with who he considers his main 2 competitors/rivals in the lw division:
- teddy james (brawl n ground n pound)
- dave blias (gsp nuthuggery)
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#214969 - 07/11/10 04:08 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participants [Re: The Godfather]
Jbear



Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 5177
Quietly moving up the ranks and winning his first fight in Tier 4 by way of knockout in the very first round Tommy Williams is now 7-2 with 2 pop.

7-2 Record
6 KO's
Never Finished
So far able to move up each step on the org ladder with a minimum contract.
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#214983 - 07/11/10 05:09 PM Re: MMarmy Career Challenge Org Layout & Participants [Re: Jbear]
Crippler



Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 7871
Loc: Maryland
^^ ducker lol
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