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#2718 - 07/12/08 12:33 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
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Registered: 05/13/08
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its been awhile since i vented.. so here goes


DAMN PG!!!!!!!!! DAMN DAMN DAMN THEM TO HELLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And here I have an average HW that beats them fairly consistently with PL/SiO. He couldn't GnP if his life depended upon it, but still manages to fight off those pesky Jitz guys. Maybe you need some average fighters with PL stats up the ass to help out? :P

Oh, and I've noticed if you have good Balance to match your Wrestling, your GnP will be more effective, which is nice. Just some things to think about, though I'm sure you don't need any advice on beating them as you've probably got an entire garden filled with Gracies who crossed your path. :P


Uh no.
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#2719 - 07/12/08 12:39 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
usnightmare76


Registered: 05/24/08
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its been awhile since i vented.. so here goes


DAMN PG!!!!!!!!! DAMN DAMN DAMN THEM TO HELLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

And here I have an average HW that beats them fairly consistently with PL/SiO. He couldn't GnP if his life depended upon it, but still manages to fight off those pesky Jitz guys. Maybe you need some average fighters with PL stats up the ass to help out? :P

Oh, and I've noticed if you have good Balance to match your Wrestling, your GnP will be more effective, which is nice. Just some things to think about, though I'm sure you don't need any advice on beating them as you've probably got an entire garden filled with Gracies who crossed your path. :P


Uh no.

I know the style, itself doesn't work against PG, but with it as a secondary style, it actually has worked out for Smith. Don't ask how, because I couldn't tell ya'. It's the oddest thing, because I really expect him to be losing more of those bouts with the PG guys, but instead he ends up submitting or KOing them. Maybe it's a hidden stat, "fattie cannot be submitted by puny Brazilian grappling technique, and will slam, punch, kick, stomp and KOTFO his way to victory."

Some of my fights against PG I'll actually just go straight up PL's the whole way through, but there's been success with SiO as a secondary style. And I'm sure it's kicked in in some of those bouts, as well.

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#2720 - 07/12/08 12:59 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
Niclas


Registered: 03/23/08
Posts: 98
Playing as PG I'm constantly thinking of changing into something else since 90% of the players have gnp :P

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#2721 - 07/12/08 02:55 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
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Playing as PG I'm constantly thinking of changing into something else since 90% of the players have gnp :P


Maybe because a lot of people that go PG/FS make one dimensional fighters and end up having trainers with 4.0 star stats whereas regular people who actually factor in MIXED MARTIAL Arts become more diverse while suffer from weaker trainers.
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#2722 - 07/12/08 02:58 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
Niclas


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Playing as PG I'm constantly thinking of changing into something else since 90% of the players have gnp :P


Maybe because a lot of people that go PG/FS make one dimensional fighters and end up having trainers with 4.0 star stats whereas regular people who actually factor in MIXED MARTIAL Arts become more diverse while suffer from weaker trainers.


nae I think its mostly because GnP / SiO is very popular atm.

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#2723 - 07/12/08 03:30 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
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Playing as PG I'm constantly thinking of changing into something else since 90% of the players have gnp :P


Maybe because a lot of people that go PG/FS make one dimensional fighters and end up having trainers with 4.0 star stats whereas regular people who actually factor in MIXED MARTIAL Arts become more diverse while suffer from weaker trainers.


nae I think its mostly because GnP / SiO is very popular atm.

From what I've noticed, there's a lot more PG forcing the field to supply more GnP. I rarely see any SiO fighters, but then again most people just work on Wrestling for that style, neglecting Judo completely.

I've started noticing some great success within my camp's CS fighters beating out FS fighters. PG is trickier, but it can be done, though.

I'm of the mind that versatility wins more than single dimension fighters, and my fighters who switch well are seeing more success than my one dimensional fighters. Hell, there's no better jack of all trades in my camp than Kotoku. PG, FF, CS, SiO, GnP, SnB, PL - he can do it all, apparently. That's always nice to have, as you can style switch just about anyone to try and get a better result. Just gotta have 2 styles under your hat for better success; a third just gives you room to play around with other fight offers.

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#2724 - 07/12/08 03:32 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
Niclas


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[quote]Playing as PG I'm constantly thinking of changing into something else since 90% of the players have gnp :P


Maybe because a lot of people that go PG/FS make one dimensional fighters and end up having trainers with 4.0 star stats whereas regular people who actually factor in MIXED MARTIAL Arts become more diverse while suffer from weaker trainers.


nae I think its mostly because GnP / SiO is very popular atm.

From what I've noticed, there's a lot more PG forcing the field to supply more GnP. I rarely see any SiO fighters, but then again most people just work on Wrestling for that style, neglecting Judo completely.

I've started noticing some great success within my camp's CS fighters beating out FS fighters. PG is trickier, but it can be done, though.

I'm of the mind that versatility wins more than single dimension fighters, and my fighters who switch well are seeing more success than my one dimensional fighters. Hell, there's no better jack of all trades in my camp than Kotoku. PG, FF, CS, SiO, GnP, SnB, PL - he can do it all, apparently. That's always nice to have, as you can style switch just about anyone to try and get a better result. Just gotta have 2 styles under your hat for better success; a third just gives you room to play around with other fight offers.[/quote]

Truth be told the view on this is probably colored by what kind of a camp you have... since I have a mostly pg and one mostly cs camp I feel like everyone does either GnP and/or SiO. Thats my guess anyways. And about CS guys to me its been the other way around... much more success vs PG than FS. Oh well :p

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#2725 - 07/12/08 06:36 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
Guy


Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 204
Man I feel I got robbed of a win just now. I think it should of been a decision in my favor. This guy lands 2 shots in the 2nd round and 1 low kick in the 3rd.


http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1056994

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#2726 - 07/12/08 09:31 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
LegendKiller


Registered: 06/02/08
Posts: 63
Loc: New Mexico
Crazy how tough it is to find a fight these days,takes me sometimes 2 real days for me to get someone to accept a fight for my vets,but my newer guys always get flooded with challenges from fighters with alot of fights already and my small guy gets a bunch of challenges from 170 pound guys cutting into LW,at least the random SoCat MW title shot i challenged for was accepted and i lost by a decision (not by KO!) to a guy that was 10 times better then me so thats somewhat of a plus to know i can hang with the big dogs.

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#2727 - 07/13/08 07:36 AM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: butt]
Lokeey


Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 232
Loc: California
http://www.mmarmy.org/showfight.php?fight=1058923

I think its stupid how a dude like http://www.mmarmy.org/fighter_display.php?id=150521 with really no stats in Pull guard other than a little JJ and a little flex can beat my dude http://www.mmarmy.org/fighter_display.php?id=179833, who is at least like decent in his 8 points trait.

DUMMMBBBB

Well, my dude has lost all 3 times to subs. Maybe hes weak against subs.

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