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#27332 - 04/24/08 08:59 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
ocmmafan Registered: 01/18/08 Posts: 523 Loc: The OC	How to stop the apathy? No clue. I rarely fight any of my guys anymore because no one will fight me unless it's one of the few dudes on here I know or regularly fight (or used to). The lower orgs are filled with experienced guys and today I had my guy with 8 fights battle someone with 140. I guess that guy can pump out his chest and jack off in the mirror over his split decision win but many people are correct in saying these lower orgs are stacked with talented dudes. As for being motivated to get EFC belts? Why? All of the good players already have a shit load of belts; including EFC belts. I don't have any advice to offer other than accepting this game has a shelf life. Maybe 3 months is pretty much it? I do believe I was much more interested with my original guys and the rock, paper scissors part of todays game, coupled with ducking, is just taking it's toll. Your PL and PG. I'm FF and GnP. Lets see who guesses correctly. I will say MKick has done a stellar job and is making the effort to create an evolving, more enjoyable game. Kudos to him. Maybe the change over this weekend will be cool? Goodluck to those who stick around and find out.
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#27333 - 04/24/08 09:11 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Toj Registered: 02/02/08 Posts: 2609 Loc: Denver	This game isn't dying, its getting better. Not everybody shot to the top right away. I can tell from these forums that there are some up and coming camps (including me), but many others as well. And many others don't even hit the forums. Just like some beginners will try it and not like it, some veterans will get too good, too fast and get tired of it. It'll happen. But a solid core will remain.
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#27334 - 04/25/08 12:57 AM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Bertmark Registered: 01/22/08 Posts: 1412	Yeah I don't know, I don't think you can really put caps on promotions. Although, I did kind of like the myspace idea. Like, not full blown myspace pages and shit. But it just made me think, like a while ago somebody made the suggestion of being able to make small banners or whatever to upload to your camps homepage. I think being able to buy things like that for you camp would not only be pretty cool, but it'd motivate people to want to make as much money as they could, which should hopefully facilitate people moving their fighters up instead of choosing to stay in lower promotions for a long time. If you make things like that affordable enough to not seem too out of people's grasp, but expensive enough that they have to work for it, then I think it'd be a good motivator. Also, it's kind of naff when you buy items at the store for your fighters and when they retire they lose everything they were wearing. That's kind of discouraging as far as wanting to make/save a lot of money to buy items right now I think, because you spend a lot of money buying them but they just disappear anyway so it's like... why bother? You know. It'd be nice if when our fighters retired, we kept their stuff. That way it'd also motivate us to want to keep buying the inventory upgrades, too. Which I get the feeling a lot of people aren't bothering with much.
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#27335 - 04/25/08 12:38 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Infotrone Registered: 04/25/08 Posts: 6	Im relatevly new to this game. (Play from Mar 29) I stay at orgs such as WVA , Cages and so on, because before I move on I whant to win a belt at least once to prove that im ready to move up. Plus because of some strog vets. in lower orgs theres allways a chalange. PS : Sorry for my English. Its my third language
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#27336 - 04/25/08 12:46 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Hector Registered: 02/23/08 Posts: 7342	I think the should make. Super low orgs like Fighter Genesis into rookie places. Add a belt to one of the three, make the other two have more money. 25 Game months then you're out. I made months cause some dude could sit out. _________________________ TTT men are going to play for TTT. SPEED KILLZ! FUCK GROUND! SOVIET!!!!!!!! Best Selling MMArmy Author of "Speed Killz: The Philosophy behind Perfect 8pts"
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#27337 - 04/25/08 01:35 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
lb3 Registered: 02/12/08 Posts: 195	I have no belts, so I am not belt whoring but I do have guys with 50-75 fights is low orgs. I move my guys up as much as I can, but I can't seem to get anyone past Delirium anymore (had a some Glory/EFC guys). Most of them get stuck in the middle orgs. I currently have 2 of 14 that are in Delerium, a bunch in Pankrash, Socat, Strikefest, & MFO. A few are in random lower orgs. Some of the lower org guys are of course still coming up, but a few have been higher and went on bad streaks that push them back down to the lower orgs. Some of the problem is that I suck, obviously. Some of the problem might be that I take a lot of disadvantaged fights. I'll pretty much take any fight that I consider a reasonable challenge (someone who is close in rank and pop). I'm also pretty impatient. I don't have 2 hours a day to hand pick fights for 14 guys that suit their style perfectly (though those types of fights tend to get declined, takes even longer). Maybe I also hang on to too many shitty fighters that should be retired. I dunno. This is one of my guys that has been up and down in the middle to low orgs for 5 years. I don't know if he just sucks or if I am putting him in terrible fights or what. I realize that he is one dimensional, but he was training up boxing with another fighter for a while and I discovered he's not great at sparring. http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=91483 http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_record.php?id=91483
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#27338 - 04/25/08 04:55 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Gallo Registered: 04/14/08 Posts: 21	Quote: I agree with Trillione's assessment. I don't have any guys at EFC level yet but when I check out EFC guys, their stats are similar or equal to what I see in fighters in lower orgs. These veteran fighters simply choose to fight at lower orgs to be the big fish in their small ponds. It seems like popularity, ranking, and money aren't their concerns. You cannot urge these players to move up by lowering their rank or pop. If we get new players, they will obviously run into all these veteran fighters at the lower orgs who will utterly crush them. Most new camps that I check out have 1-5 wins and 10-20+ losses. They don't know any better and stand no chance. On top of this, help needs to be more readily available. The link to the walk-through is on the front page, but it's relatively obscure. There are few game guides to help new players learn the mechanics of the game and forcing newbies to scan through pages of forum discussions is definitely not fun for them. Many of the posters in the forum would prefer to keep their secrets so they have an advantage and can beat up on noobs. This again refers back to the big fish in small pond example. The old veterans using their knowledge and experience to crush noobs is nothing new as this happens in every game. However, most games provide a safe haven for noobs to develop before the vets can get to them. Take WoW for example, noobs start out in a safe starting area that gives them experience and training while veterans cannot touch them. As it is right now, noobs are massacred right out of the gate. Excellent analysis. I think this is key.
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#27339 - 04/25/08 05:47 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Trillione Registered: 01/20/08 Posts: 275	This is so fucking stupid. I'm sitting here in the EFC, three of my fighters in the MW division with 3 challenges out each and nobody is accepting. It's 50/50 matches too. This is the reason this game is starting to suck. People only accept matches where they think they have a sure win. There's gotta be some give and take here for things to work. I'm offering you a 50/50 match. It's a toss up. I'd rather fight and have a 50% shot of winning than not fight at all. Just accept the fight. No, some flying subs guy isn't going to challenge your GNP guy at EFC level. People are in there because they aren't fucking retarded. No wonder nobody goes to the top orgs. Impossible to get a fucking fight. I'm out for the night, not gonna waste my time with this shit. Edited by (04/25/08 05:59 PM) _________________________ Team GNR To be the man, you gotta beat the man
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#27340 - 04/25/08 05:54 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
Hector Registered: 02/23/08 Posts: 7342	Agreed dude. _________________________ TTT men are going to play for TTT. SPEED KILLZ! FUCK GROUND! SOVIET!!!!!!!! Best Selling MMArmy Author of "Speed Killz: The Philosophy behind Perfect 8pts"
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#27341 - 04/25/08 06:09 PM Re: Is the Game Dying? [Re: juan81]
duce Registered: 01/25/08 Posts: 2214 Loc: Hanzhou	Quote: Agreed dude. Seriously this update is going change alot of stuff via the addition of stuff and stuff. Meaning, people are going to change and have to if they wanna figure stuff out... _________________________ TEF3 Episode 3 live on SykeTV http://www.mmarmy.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5579 [
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