a lot of guys stay in lower orgs to because its not as much paper rock scissors, your FS subs guy can survive in the lower orgs with just great BJJ. In EFC almost every single fight is a style fight, who picks right wins cause all the stats are jacked.

also like myself I have a 237lb HW and a 140 LW they have really good stats and I will never put them any higher than 1.5 orgs because with the weight thing they have no chance in higher orgs so I settle them there for their entire career.

Its sad, but people really do take pride in holding onto their SHAATO belt with their old ass fighter.
I'm not sure why, but thats how it is.
I don't think that there should need to be limits on fights in some lower orgs, but that pretty much seems like thats how it is. Just like there shouldn't have to be measures taken against HW's fighting LW's. But it came to that, and I agree with it.
But I think newer players fighting for belts is more important than LW's getting beat up by HW's.

I've definitely noticed fewer players...came here to check out why. Belt holding seems to be a problem.

What if we split it up into amateur and pro? Every new recruit can start out as amateur, and we have a couple of orgs for amateur fights. Then when you think your fighter is ready to turn pro, you can click like a 'Turn Pro' button, and there's no going back. That way, most people will want to see the limit on how great their fighter can be, so will turn pro and go as far as possible. Then after guys realize their veteran fighters can't win the upper echelon belts, they won't be able to just move them down and beat up new fighters with no experience.

Me Likey this Idea

I think it would be a good idea to put some sort of cap or limit on the number of fights you can stay in certain orgs... maybe 20 fights in all the .75 and 1 star promotions... 25 fights in the 1.5 orgs... etc etc etc...

In the highest orgs you still have a limit, but maybe every win grants you an extra two fight extension... essentially you earn your way at the highest levels... If you somehow use up all your fights at the lower levels... and can't get your popularity high enough to continue on to the higher levels? Well... I mean... sounds like a sparring partner/retiree to me. I guess that could get complicated though.

I would also suggest bonuses for Subs and TKO/KO's in the higher levels... increasing the potential earnings... and hopefully there will be more cool stuff to buy with the update...

I don't see how you can have an amatuer league because amatuers don't get paid. Thats not going to help new camps. I do like mirroring the athletic commisions of now. You see them frown on throwing boots camps against veteran fighters. I remember reading an article about how they(NSAC) didn't want Vernon White to fight because he had to many career loses.

Perhaps amatuers are not fighting for money... maybe they are fighting for extra sparring points. Win a fight +1 sparring point... KO or Submit him? +2 sparring points.

Limit the number of amatuer fights a fighter can take... and I think you would create a pretty neat way to train guys up faster... (perhaps the sparring points have to be used with the guy you beat? That is you have to train against the guy you beat... that would add a pretty interesting dynamic... especially if you don't have anybody skilled in an a certain area of need in your camp... you could essetially create camp alliances. "I'll fight this rookie against your rookie with all the brawling, and your boxing rook can fight my guy with the 2.5 stars of power... )

I don't know... maybe not.

plus hes a crack head. I interviewed the guy about a year back. He had his "soon to be wife" with him. Seemed more like a hoe. He kept looking at her when she'd talk... and she'd trail off. Bitch was crazy too. Weighed about 90 lbs, around 5'10.

Poor Vernon.

I agree with fight caps in certain orgs. It would basically work out as Amateur, Pro, and Wash Up leagues. Though maybe not with the names. (It would just go without saying with the rules imposed).

Amateur should have a couple of belts for the better couple of leagues, and have a maximum number of fights. Pro should all have belts, no minimum or maximum fights. Wash Ups should have belts in all leagues, and a minimum amount of fights. They would always have the possibility of going on a tear and getting back into the Pro's.

That, or screw the Wash Up leagues, and just have them deal with the Pro's, which would kind of reshape the higher orgs. But I kind of think there should be a regrouping spot for the older guys.