While not generally considered an effective sub, it is still a submission. Much like the can-opener is generally seen as a way to pass guard, the body triangle is a may to maintain position, but still can (and has) made people tap out: the Fruit-Bat example cited above is probably the best known case.

Thanks for pointing out the lack of d'arce and brabo chokes, I'll bring it up next time I talk to shalabi about new pbp text. I don't really distinguish between arm-in and arm-out guillotines in general so it hasn't bothered me in game play. I think Achilles locks are in there, they're just called "ankle locks."

And anyway, talking about a sub that no one needs to tap to, an Achilles lock just hurts - no ligament, tendon, or muscle damage, just pain. I'll fight an Achilles lock for a week.[/quote]

Arm-in chokes seem to be becoming really popular these days, I mean you see Almeida and Renzo do them, Sakurai got finished with one last week and Lion Takeshi almost got finished by one and I think Jeremy Horn got finished by Marquardt with one of them. I think they're supposed to be harder to defend against if you do them right, like if he pulls guard on you, you can't really tripod and try to pass his guard to get out of it like with normal guillotines and I don't think you can slam him Wanderlei Silva vs Sakuraba II style because the arm is trapped. Brabo chokes are crazy popular now too, I think I counted 3 brabo choke attempts in the last WEC...

I think all pain moves can injure someone if you crank them hard enough, didn't Manny Gamburyan mess up Nate Mohr's knee with one? I remember him saying post fight that the other guys leg was broken for sure. I think some guys do achilles locks so that there is pressure on the knee as well where the other guys leg isn't straight but angled, I saw it in the Robert Drysdale instructional.

If gogoplatas are as common as they are in this game, I'd like to see all the other goofy submissions like monoplatas, locoplatas, banana splits, inverted armbars, bulldog chokes, toeholds...if for nothing else other than to at least to differentiate pull guard and power locks...

That's 'cause the WEC features a lot of long and lanky guys - we LOVE brabo and d'arce chokes.



What is a monoplata?

Marcelo Garcia move for when a guy defends an omplata:

http://community.trainingforwarriors.com...60740/6152.html

Are there arm-triangles in this game at all? I can't remember if I've seen them...

I've gotten an arm triangle a few times, the funny thing is I got them with FF...

Yet I still take them and lose. This is gayer that 8 dudes blowing 9 dudes.

When Pyro leaves me a message saying I'm next for a title shot, then never gives it to me. So I go 3 months without a fight as the #1 contender. Then after he loses it, he wants to fight. The confusing this is I matched up horribly and I would've lost.

And of course the new champ didn't give it to me either. Oh well, I'll probably retire tonight.

I'm sick of me overlooking SiO when I challenge with my SFTF.

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

2 robbery's in one night

straight robbery, wow, insane, my fighters fucked those fools up

must have sucked cecile peoples dick for these fights

damn no love for the moonlite bunny ranch




Katsuo "the rasta jap" tsurimi vs rich martin

Round 1
Rich lands a left hook, only to follow up with a strong kick to the ribs. Tsurimi fakes a takedown attempt and clinches with Rich Martin. "The Rasta Jap" stomps the feet of Martin. Tsurimi works the clinch to his advantage, carefully connecting with precise strikes. Tsurimi recieves a strong elbow opening up the clinch. Martin circles "The Rasta Jap", landing a front snap kick that stuns him. Martin lands a strong outside leg kick that buckles Katsuo. After dodging a jab, Katsuo lands a kick to the liver of Martin who steps back only to take a knee. Katsuo rushes forward to capitalize but Martin falls to his back to avoid the onslaught. Round 1 is over.

Round 2
"The Rasta Jap" circles Rich, landing jabs and crosses at will. Rich Martin lands a left hook, only to follow up with a strong kick to the ribs. After dodging a jab, cross, Martin lands a kick to the liver of "The Rasta Jap" who steps back only to take a knee. Martin rushes forward to capitalize but "The Rasta Jap" stands back up and is met by a strong cross uppercut. Rich Martin unleashes a flurry of punches on "The Rasta Jap". Rich lands a left hook, only to follow up with a strong kick to the ribs. The round comes to an end.

Round 3
After an exchange of punches, the fighters engage in the clinch. Katsuo works the clinch to his advantage, carefully connecting with precise strikes. Katsuo Tsurimi breaks away from the clinch while delivering a knee. Katsuo Tsurimi lands a strong outside leg kick that buckles Martin. Rich lands a strong outside leg kick that is returned by Katsuo Tsurimi. Rich Martin is rocked by a standing elbow strike. "The Rasta Jap" circles Rich, landing a push kick that knocks "The Rasta Jap" to the floor. A solid leg kick bruises the leg of Martin. Round 3 comes to a close.

Rich Martin wins by Split Decision

Consuelo "el matador" cruz vs randy "makes you dandy" james


Round 1
Randy fakes a takedown attempt and clinches with Consuelo. The fighters jockey for position in the clinch. Cruz recieves a strong elbow opening up the clinch. Cruz snaps back the head of "Makes You Dandy" with a stiff jab. Consuelo Cruz slips a cross from "Makes You Dandy" and lands an uppercut to the liver. Consuelo lands a devastating overhand right on "Makes You Dandy". Consuelo blocks a cross, liver shot combo but is pushed backward. Randy James tries to press the action but is met with a jab, cross, uppercut that puts him to on the floor. Consuelo Cruz attempts to drop a fist on "Makes You Dandy", but misses and lands in his guard.Round 1 comes to a close.

Round 2
The fighters circle each other. Cruz throws a cross that easily dodged by James. "Makes You Dandy" circles "El Matador", mixing jabs and leg kicks. "El Matador" takes a heavy kick to the arm attempting to block his head. "El Matador" parries Jamess jab and lands a liver shot. Randy James lands a strong outside leg kick but is hit with a heavy counter hook. Round 2 comes to a close.

Round 3
The fighters circle each other. The fighters circle each other. "El Matador" keeps Randy at a distance with some well timed jabs. "El Matador" throws a cross that easily dodged by "Makes You Dandy". Randy circles Cruz, landing jabs and crosses at will. Consuelo stuffs a shot from James and strikes two solid knees to his skull. James is stunned and Consuelo takes mount with in a quick scramble. Round 3 comes to a close.

Randy "Makes You Dandy" James wins by Split Decision

I've failed at an arm triangle in the game.