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#79298 - 01/04/09 07:12 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: consortium11]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
The submission thing is true, but not what i was getting at. Just because someone has more JJ wins, means nothing toward their skills. They could be mediocre in JJ, but face someone worse and submit them. That doesnt mean that they are particularly good, it just means that they were better than who they faced. Submissions definately do not revolve entirely around JJ, but in the game, the only submission disciplines are JIU JITSU, and sambo and judo. meaning these are the only things available to train in for submission skill. I dont know what else to train a submission fighter in except these submission disciplines. Unless American Submission Wrestling is incorporated, or catch wrestling or shoot wrestling, then these are the only attributes pertaining to submissions.

As for the physical attributes, yeah he was a little weak for PL as a primary style, but he was PG as a secondary, which he should revert to win the primary fails. Because he is weaker and not as fast as another fighter, shouldnt necessarily mean that he has a poor chance at victory. At some point technique overcomes strength and speed. Anyone ever heard of a guy name Royce Gracie? I think that was his name. Not the fastest or the strongest, but i think hes kinda good at submitting people..

The last i checked, GnP was intended as pounding. while on the ground. not primarily a submission technique, but possibly to use submission knowledge as a defense.
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#79311 - 01/04/09 07:43 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: Thunderdome]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
Ok. Pissed. Again. http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1879650. Hes a better striker than my guy. admittedly. but my style was GnP and PL as a secondary. Can anyone give me some insight as to why my guy tried to stand with him? Its not like the other guy was stronger and my guy wasnt strong enough to get the takedown or wasnt better at wrestling. i dont understand, stronger, better wrestling, better submissions, and he tries to stand. Whats the point of matching up styles if they wont follow the plan? Just like real MMA, people who go against their game plan and usually their best interests, generally lose. Now why would he stand? Not the plan. FUCK!
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#79313 - 01/04/09 07:46 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: bates77]
FistK


Registered: 05/22/08
Posts: 4589
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: bates77
Ok. Pissed. Again. http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1879650. Hes a better striker than my guy. admittedly. but my style was GnP and PL as a secondary. Can anyone give me some insight as to why my guy tried to stand with him? Its not like the other guy was stronger and my guy wasnt strong enough to get the takedown or wasnt better at wrestling. i dont understand, stronger, better wrestling, better submissions, and he tries to stand. Whats the point of matching up styles if they wont follow the plan? Just like real MMA, people who go against their game plan and usually their best interests, generally lose. Now why would he stand? Not the plan. FUCK!


PbP is just for entertainment


Edited by FistK (01/04/09 07:47 PM)

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#79604 - 01/05/09 04:24 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: FistK]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1882680. This is the second time ive had a ground oriented guy try and stand with a striker. i dont understand. neither style revolved around striking. both one was slams and the other was pl. so what the hell.
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#80346 - 01/10/09 10:49 AM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: bates77]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
Ok. So really fucking tired of getting boned here. http://mmarmy.com/start.php. i have a good camp in the making and all of my guys with good stats who are my best guys and win fights have been losing. Not just losing, losing to CHUMPS.guys that they outskill 20x. And not just every now and then, like every other fucking fight. Tank Harris isnt one of my best, but hes got good stats and he lost to someone with shitty stats that weighs 170 or so. They fought at LHW! Fucking bullshit. The RANDOMNESS of the game is bullshit. Half of the time the better fighter does not win. Thats bullshit. I think they should try to make fight results actually relevant to the fighters stats, and not just display the stats for aesthetic purposes. Because apparently, stats are trivial and training is trivial because they obviously dont play much of a role in fight outcome.
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http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=27099 --1st Camp
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#80348 - 01/10/09 10:59 AM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: bates77]
MMA


Registered: 02/05/08
Posts: 5294
Loc: Hell...San Diego
how about posting the right link to your camp or fighter?

EDIT: Nm i see you like this thread....

But some of your Fights are wrong style choice OR dont have the stats


Edited by 666HBK666 (01/10/09 11:02 AM)
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#80805 - 01/12/09 05:58 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: MMA]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
some yeah. not this one. http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1914222. much better stats and same style. its like the game is programmed against me. all of my guys are losing lately and its killing my camp record. some guys lost to studs or lost tough fights. those losses dont anger me. its fights like these that piss me off to no end. ive had like 3 or 4 mismatches like this that my guys have lost.

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#80806 - 01/12/09 06:01 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: bates77]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
btw, this is the link that was supposed to be on my post before last. http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1900889
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http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=27099 --1st Camp
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=27905 --2nd Camp
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=29749 --3rd Camp somehow forgotten about until a month or so ago.

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#80808 - 01/12/09 06:30 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: bates77]
jimmycricket



Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1443
Loc: Chicago
damn Bates you seem to have a lot to vent about
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#80962 - 01/13/09 04:58 PM Re: Offical Venting thread (so it isnt everywhere else) [Re: jimmycricket]
bates77


Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 50
Loc: WA
I do have a lot to vent about..unfortunately. Like this.. http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=1917993 . i am totally speechless. my buddy knows how ive been getting fucked over with my fights, so he said he was going to set up a rebound fight with one of his new recruits. his new recruit with no stats ko'd me in the second round. what the fuck..

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