This is what I have to say about this whole thing.Im very laid back when it comes to the forum and dont say much about ppl talking shit because it's part of the game.But when it happens with the same person over and over again and he talks about how he wishes the game was dead because its so bad...doesnt really help us going forward.
If he is pushing away newer players because they see whats posted...then thats a problem.

He has repeatedly talked shit to me in the last few events,when I didnt create them or have anything to do with putting them together except for running the events so Chief could put work into the game.The last event he told me to fuck off and ban him if I wanted...that he didnt care..and it didnt stop with just that but I let it go.Ive put in a lot of work trying to bring new players from game side,and have put together multiple guides,game side emails about the game,and searching through camps to let the players know that there is a lot of good info on the forum side.I dont think it's fair to those that have put forth the effort to bring newer players over to the forum while another only talks about how the game sucks and so forth.

I've been playing MMArmy for a year this October. In my limited experience I don't think I can recall a single time when CH said something that wasn't absolutely toxic. There's talking shit in the SB and then there's what CH does, being a retarded asshole. I'm surprised he lasted this long. There were many occasions when he would come on late at night and light up the SB after Chief had logged off. I can think of twice in just the past week where if Chief saw the shit he was saying he would have shut him down then and there. If he wants to grow the fuck up and change his ways, fine. If not, good fucking riddance.

Chief has said I wouldn't bother fighting this if it was not an alliance mate of mine, but if that were the case why would I have put so much energy into fighting bans of Judo, Grap, and Jid when they were not part of my alliance? This is what I do, but I will fight twice as hard for a member of my team than any other, and 3 times as hard for my mod.

So people said CH has said toxic things for a long time. Yet he wasn't banned then. I have not even seen where he was warned then. Not sure he's ever got a 24 hour warning ban as has been the standard for a long time. Why now? Why decide on a long term ban now 1 week before an alliance event? CH didn't fuck his alliance, his behavior has not changed. The banning is quickly fucking his alliance though, as instead of putting energy in the event I am putting energy into fighting this foolishness due to losing my co-mod 1 week out. This is not the first time this has happened to a major SFL player just before an event. This is not the second time this has happened to a major SFL player just before an event. This sort of pattern impacts my enjoyment of the game much, much more than any anonymous forum name spouting any sort of anonymous insult or slurs.

And this is not consistent moderation. As I said, many, many times chief has said we can say what we want to each other, just not come after him. Many, many times players have been given 24 hour bans rather than long term ones. Why a long term one now? I guarantee more heinous exclamations in the SB have been met with warning bans in the past.

CHs behavior could change. I have not asked him to. I have not seen anyone else ask him to, most of the time his callouts are met with silence. As I said in the SB this is a bit. He enjoys playing a heel or villain, much like the way heels work in wrestling. If you do not like him the character is succeeding. And it is a character, but is not being fought like a character. It is being fought like a violation of the rules. Are those rules written out? How is he to know he violated the rules? Informally rules have been communicated through the SB, and as stated above his behavior is well within the informal rules range. He has not caught even a 24 hour ban or even a warning for the complaints people are listing that I have seen.

In my opinion explicitly called out behavior after a 24 hour warning ban would warrant more extreme actions, rather than an arbitrary long term ban just before an event as a reaction to long term tolerated behavior. You may not like the way he is acting, but I am asking for him to be called out on it and given a chance to improve rather prior to extreme banning action to be implemented.

If owner of the game thinks someone is being an asshole and gets tired of it so be it. Fucking guy isn't making callouts he is just ripping on people and the game. This shit has been going on a long time, guys a fucking whiner and piece of shit whether trolling or not. I usually get a chuckle at some of the stuff he says, chalk it down to ch doing the ch thing but gets old, especially with the personal attacks.

then call him out on it. Noone has. How does a guy get banned for violating an unwritten, unspoken rule? How is anyone else to avoid being banned if that is how moderation is going to be handled? All I am asking for is consistency and a fair shake for players and alliances alike.

When you say call him out on it what do you actually mean? I have seen people say shit to him in SB and just results in him amping it up. I don't see anyone else doing the shit in SB to the extremes like hansen does. Back in the day yes but not recently. Not sure why someone acting like a piece of shit and getting banned is surprising to you. What is surprising is your need to defend said piece of shit.

I have an agenda in defending him and you have an agenda in keeping him banned. Said piece of shit is a key member of my alliance and I have never seen a ban happen without a warning or 24 hour ban before.

Why is there a 0 tolerance policy for behavior that has never resulted in a ban prior 1 week before an event? I'm constantly losing guys to banning right before events. To be honest I'm not that interested in playing an mmarmy with strict moderation without rules guidelines around it. Back in the day things were more interesting and the SB moved a lot more with similar activity to now.

Anyway, awaiting an answer from Chief on it. Anyone else is interested in beating us at the event anyway, and would celebrate any member of our team getting a perma ban.

Lol at me having an agenda. You guys take this way to serious. I could care less if he fights in any alliance event or not, just another player in a game I play.

We're not really talking about "unwritten rules" here.



Now believe me I'm not saying any of this holds water or is truly relevant. It was written 10 years ago by somebody else. Nor am I suggesting that we should all be Smurf Village and sitting around holding hands or anything like that. But I don't think you should be allowed to play the "ignorance of the rules" card when it's generally common sense to not go to the extremes he has. I also think someone should know where the line is as far as playing the "heel card" goes. Right now I'd say CH has X-Pac heat which is to say.. People don't hate the character because he is a good heel, they just hate him because they hate him.

I don't really care if CH calls me names or tells me how much I suck at the game or any of that. I choose never to engage him back because it would be like talking trash to Rocky Dennis. But I will admit that it's really frustrating to spend your few days off working on putting an event together for everyone to enjoy and for him to just immediately come and shit on it. Then for it to subsequently evolve into any kind of drama.

So why choose to enforce those rules now 1 week before the event rather than before? It's a grey line for sure, and a line with room to warn and correct. I've got players to tone down before, but have not been asked, was not aware a ban was imminent.