#512565 - 01/12/22 01:54 PM
Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.
[Re: Matty]
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Matty you forgot to read I am working and on my phone and not my laptop. Not sure how this information is out there and the data can be sourced you lazy fuck.
Blim...with the impossible task of noting every person who comes in for every reason every percentage can only be based on trends and extrapolations. It is nonsensical to believe any statistical point at any time...as people lie and make up things to fit narratives all the time. Dependong on variables and what you are looking for, numbers can be scewed any way. We all know that.
Think you should read the Darpa report and be concerned why the branch of the US Military that oversees all sorts of weapons would refuse gain of function research and then claim Fauci accepted and went through with it on American Soil. Obama approved that grant...Also...why Dr Fauci is continuing to claim otherwise.
Pfizer would be mpre apt to claim ongoong research and not just retract the video from the CEO going against what their marketing department has been claiming.
Sorry guys...what part of India has defeated Covid and why did Joe Biden ask them not to disclose how they did it? If they currently have it under control...why not share it with the rest of the world?
Also...not sure of touched on...why did Pfizer want to hide the data for 75 years?
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#512566 - 01/12/22 02:20 PM
Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.
[Re: Trite]
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No sources no clue on what you're talking about on India, darpa, etc, that shit could be entirely made up.
Data tracking has been going on from multiple organizations from multiple countries. It is insane to think that all of that data gathering is wrong or fabricated in the same ways. Experiments and trials for medications have been going on for years now, there are too many countries, organizations, and labs for this shit to be fake, for the scientific consensus to be incorrect.
There isn't enough money in the world to make that happen, claiming so makes you sound like a child with no understanding of science, logistics, or politics. Sad thing is millions of americans are at exactly that level and buy this shit based on claims alone, then people die from it.
Keep on pushing, what do you think your body count is at? most antivax information sharers have one. Is this your year to get it into the double digits?
0 If it were incorrect these actors who make statments would be providing data for peer review. This is not happening, and believe me conservative think tanks have been trying. I can provide the data, but you can't provide any sources to back up your claims. And Data is just about the only means of refuting other data, anything else is talking heads with an agenda.
If your news is opposed to science and data gathering, ie actual measurents of reality, chances are 99.9% it is fake. I'll bet you a billion dollars we don't see mass deaths from covid vaccinations in the next year. You said a couple of years from the first vax we'll start keeling over, right?
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#512569 - 01/12/22 10:50 PM
Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.
[Re: BlimBlapZing]
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Lol @ Mypillowguy. The Hardcore Trumplicans love the guy. Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions, https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
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#512570 - 01/12/22 11:48 PM
Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.
[Re: Trite]
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Matty you forgot to read I am working and on my phone and not my laptop. Not sure how this information is out there and the data can be sourced you lazy fuck.
Blim...with the impossible task of noting every person who comes in for every reason every percentage can only be based on trends and extrapolations. It is nonsensical to believe any statistical point at any time...as people lie and make up things to fit narratives all the time. Dependong on variables and what you are looking for, numbers can be scewed any way. We all know that.
Think you should read the Darpa report and be concerned why the branch of the US Military that oversees all sorts of weapons would refuse gain of function research and then claim Fauci accepted and went through with it on American Soil. Obama approved that grant...Also...why Dr Fauci is continuing to claim otherwise.
Pfizer would be mpre apt to claim ongoong research and not just retract the video from the CEO going against what their marketing department has been claiming.
Sorry guys...what part of India has defeated Covid and why did Joe Biden ask them not to disclose how they did it? If they currently have it under control...why not share it with the rest of the world?
Also...not sure of touched on...why did Pfizer want to hide the data for 75 years? Where did you see India is free of covid? As much as im dubious about testing numbers, they posted nearly a quarter of a million new cases yesterday, so unsure how theyve defeated it?? Also Blim seems to have answered most, if not all of your points, while youve dodged anything in reply, aswell as not posting things to back up previous things you said you have links for, why is this? Embarrassed by the legitimacy of your sources I imagine
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#512575 - 01/14/22 01:46 PM
Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.
[Re: Olir]
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Thing about the comorbidity data, this is an extention of something Trump pushed for a while, that only a small percentage of people die from Covid itsself. When they say "on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death" This does not exclude COVID-19, but combines it with other illnesses, often triggered by the new coronavirus itself.
Someone with pneumonia and Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) as causes of death, with diabetes and hypertension as contributing factors would have 4 comorbidities. There is still data from many countries, research groups, and hospitals all maintaining massive reductions in serious illness and hospitalization from covid among vaccinated individauls vs unvaccinated, I can provide more links if you wish.
CDC should update the summary of their weekly data, there are studies which contradict the weekly summary as stated regarding 4 commorbidities and indicate that this only applies to vaccinated individuals, such as this study with a sample size of 1.2 million - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7101a4.htm?s_cid=mm7101a4_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM72953&ACSTrackingLabel=This%20Week%20in%20MMWR%20-%20Vol.%2071,%20January%207,%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM72953
Asked a biologist source about it as the summary is being used by conservative media to push the "you're fine if healthy and unvaxxed" narrative hard. CDC isn't perfect, data isn't perfect and will surely be updated and clarified as time goes on and more observations are recorded. It's just the best we have, and the best chance for a positive outcome.
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