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#512064 - 09/22/21 05:47 AM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: Matty]
BlimBlapZing


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I could do a book report and dispute most of the stuff above, but frankly don't have the time. If you listen to right wing news, you'll agree with Trite on a lot. If you listen to left news, you'll be certain he's wrong.

Vax stuff is a medical decision. People will do what they want. Probably best for them to ask their Dr about it. Why you trying to get people to ignore their dr and follow your advice trite? I think they'll be safe enough following their doc, and if they aren't then we're all fucked anyway including you. You got an alternative? Acupuncture? Faith healing?

I'm with Matty, I'm out of the thread, I would rather relate to the people here about what I have in common with them than what I don't. If political shit continues to hit the Sb I'm likely out of the game/forum too. I don't come here to play that game, get flooded with it everywhere else.
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#512066 - 09/22/21 08:31 AM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: BlimBlapZing]
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Because I don't like when my questions are ignored I will answer all yours one last time. here you go. After this I'm likely done here, and I"m done with mmarmy if this shit keeps going through the SB -

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/ small price to pay to avoid a vax I guess. Good luck w the penis.


Tell us you know little about viral spread without telling us you know little about viral spread.....
Sympotomatic COVID 19 is still ENTIRELY plausible and possible in vaccinated humans. Immune response to viral load comes via the T and B cell reaction to a foreign pathogen. Vaccines potentially give the immune reponse headstart before viral load becomes uncontrollable. Natural sympotmatic infection and recovery is and always will be how humand survive and move past any virus. How the hell do you think the species has survived for this long?




Yes symptomatic infection is possible in vaccinated individuals. However, initial research indicates significant reduction in infections and symptomatic results among vaccinated individuals. So yes, vaccination does make it more likely your penis will keep working,

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779854
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#512067 - 09/22/21 08:32 AM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: BlimBlapZing]
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Re: Trites questions -

Why are deaths increasing since the vaccines, if the vaccines are meant to lessen symptoms and lower chance of dying? - More contagious variants emerging due to covid spread primarily.

What medications are being administered to those "Dying from Covid" while hospitalized, compared to what medications are not being administered? (I know you know this one) - Monitoring oxygen levels, maintaining oygen. Some patients need a nasal cannula, other patietns require an oxygen mask. IV fluids to support heart funciton if patient's expirenceing heart trouble. IV nutrients as needed. Antiviral medications, anti-inflammatory medications and immune system modulators, including remdesivir, glucocorticoids and tocilizumab.

How did tens of thousands of Haitians end up on the border of Mexico/Texas? Articles seem to indicate they heard of an easy way to cross. Who fucking cares? Wtf does it have to do with anything? I doubt I'll see any making their way as far north as TN. Why do you care?


Remdesivir is being blamed for various Covid Deaths and many medical professionals have stated this approved treatment kills and Dr's are willingly giving it to patients for kickback, what are you thoughts? Remdesivir has been approed by the FDA for treatment of covid. However later data suggests it has no impact on survival, figures in study were even for those given the drug compared with those not. This study did find positive impact from Rmdesivir -
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab698/6352176


How come the death tolls from Covid have been walked back, but, you are sticking with the narrative of whatever statistics these manipulated numbers are telling you? Who walked back death tolls? Haven't heard of this, sounds like right wing bullshit. Update - Appears this narrative has been driven by right wing pundit twitter with nothing behind it.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/cdc-hasnt-reduced-covid-19-death-toll/

How come you ignore the fact, that the admission of "Those who had a positive Covid test, are marked as a Covid Death, even if they died from something else" clearly inflate the numbers? I don't believe deaths are inflated. I can speak to this, I have 20 years working with hospital software. Procedures are taxed differently based on cause, a hospital artificially inflating covid numbers would cause the to get raped at the first medical audit a hospital faced. There have been audits since covid started and this has not been found.

How come, car accidents and gun shot victims were marked as Covid Deaths and you actually believe the statistics? Again I don't believe this has happened, see taxed procedures above.

How come various medical facilities quietly accounted and stated they inflated Deaths and you ignore them? Once again didn't happen


Why were and are Hospitals being incentivized to diagnose Covid? Do you not see a conflict of true diagnoses? Hospitals receive tax incentives for certain diagnosis to ensure funding for treatment of those diagnosis. If they lie about this, the medical audit system in the US is robust, would result in penalties severe enough that honesty is the policy followed.

PCR tests cannot diagnose Covid, so, why are you accepting a diagnoses from a PCR test? Who is accepting a diagnosis from PCR tests? Reuters, which is consistently rated in bias studies as nuetral, indicates this is false, the CDC report was misrepresented - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2P42U5

Why are you ignoring that the inventor of the PCR test, stated that the PCR should not be used to diagnose anybody? See last question

Why are you ignoring the CDC announced PCR tests actually cannot detect Covid? See last question

Why has there never been proof of the isolation of the virus, outside of who they tell you did it, but, there is a one million dollar bounty for proof of isolation that is still available to any of these "small independent labs" who they keep telling us have done such? This is a falsehood pushed by facebook narratives, literally fake news - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2LS27P


If Ivermectin is so bad, why did the NIH acknowledge how great it was in 2015 and why is the Fed Gov regulating distribution? (If you tell me bullshit like a shortage, I will laugh) The FDA who you said before was a good source says you should not use it. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-u...revent-covid-19

Why were and are Hospitals being paid to place people on ventilators, when they have proven to be ineffective? They haven't been proved ineffective unless you've got a source on that. They do increase blood oxygen but can have side effects.

Why are Dr's, Pharmacy's, Hospitals being given kickback money to prescribe medications and Vaccines if it was about health? This is a meme spread on facebook to discourage people from getting vaxxed. This is how small practices secure funding for procedures. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...e-idUSKBN28D39G

Why do vaccine manufacturers also make drugs for the AE's the vaccines cause? Because medical research companies tend to be large and work on multiple products.

How do you feel about Australia and their approach? Seems too heavy handed to me, but I don't live in Australia. Maybe covid infected kangaroos and giant spiders are terrifying

How do you feel about Sweden and their approach? Looks like sweden didn't do lockdowns and has had more deaths than their neighbors. Imagine that. https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)32750-1/fulltext

How do you feel about the various professionals, who have come out and stated Ivermectin is a miracle drug and being proven such, as high levels in various countries and being bashed in America? There are kooks who will advocate anything. FDA disagrees with them and you told us you care about what the FDA says.

You feel there is wide scale collusion or you think they actually want what's best for you? Covid is far too large for widespread collusion. Too many parties with different interests agreeing on the basic facts.

At what point does complying actually give you your life back? When cases are reduced to the level bird flu is at today most likely. Pandemics end, just takes a few years.

How come Israel has the highest vaccination rate per capita, of any country and also leads the world in Covid cases, if the unvaccinated are the threat? Their vaccination rate is only slightly higher than the US, variants are slipping through. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why\

How come Bill Gates has a chip and has the patent for it? (Thought this was conspiracy theory)
This is one of the more insane sounding covid theories. There is not a micorochip that can be implemented through vaccination. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...a-idUSKBN28E286

How come Bill Gates owns so much farm land? Wtf does this have to do with anything? Who cares?

Why are they trying to put vaccines inside of plants? research is always ongoing on alternate delivery methods for medications. I recall research being done to try and get mosquitos to innoculate against malaria a while back.

How come Bill Gates has MrNA labs through INDIA and is ready for the next PANDEMIC? Seems like a good idea to have labs and be ready. Why not?

How come they announce the return of a Polio like disease months ago? Looks like due to virus coming out through feces and entering the water supply and poor sanitation in 3rd world countries. Still not much of a thing in the us for now. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...-until-it-wasnt

'How come the the Chicago Mayor is openly calling for people to be removed from their home and moved for not complying with the New World Order? Couldn't find anything about this, source?

How come the President of China has also mentioned the New World Order? Sounds like political jargon for some new initiative. Chinas current president has planned well on some fronts and presents tough competition in certain areas.

How come various Australian officials have openly mentioned the New World Order? This is a right wing reaction to their covid lockdowns. Is what it is, will always be those who disagree with policy. Why do you care?

Are all these Politicians from various countries conspiracy theorists or they know something you won't simply admit to? In regards to what? Politicians mentioning new world order? Doesn't have a lot of meaning to me, who cares?

Are all the Dr's who yelled at the FDA during the last hearing anti-Science and not Professionals I should trust? Vast concensus among providers is that covid is a thing and vaccines are effective. YOu can find kooks to advocate anything. F ollow numbers, not video of angry people confirming your suspicions.

Should I not trust the various epidemiologist and virologists who predicted the vaccines would lead to variants and more outbreaks or have changed their stance on the vaccine being good to no longer being good or is that Science ignored? This is a narrative driven by social media, not science. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/no-vaccines-do-not-cause-new-sar







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#512085 - 09/24/21 07:21 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: BlimBlapZing]
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trite, who won that arizona audit? saw your other comments but you didn't mention who won.
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#512086 - 09/24/21 07:30 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: BlimBlapZing]
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Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Re: Trites questions -

Why are deaths increasing since the vaccines, if the vaccines are meant to lessen symptoms and lower chance of dying? - More contagious variants emerging due to covid spread primarily.

What medications are being administered to those "Dying from Covid" while hospitalized, compared to what medications are not being administered? (I know you know this one) - Monitoring oxygen levels, maintaining oygen. Some patients need a nasal cannula, other patietns require an oxygen mask. IV fluids to support heart funciton if patient's expirenceing heart trouble. IV nutrients as needed. Antiviral medications, anti-inflammatory medications and immune system modulators, including remdesivir, glucocorticoids and tocilizumab.

How did tens of thousands of Haitians end up on the border of Mexico/Texas? Articles seem to indicate they heard of an easy way to cross. Who fucking cares? Wtf does it have to do with anything? I doubt I'll see any making their way as far north as TN. Why do you care?


Remdesivir is being blamed for various Covid Deaths and many medical professionals have stated this approved treatment kills and Dr's are willingly giving it to patients for kickback, what are you thoughts? Remdesivir has been approed by the FDA for treatment of covid. However later data suggests it has no impact on survival, figures in study were even for those given the drug compared with those not. This study did find positive impact from Rmdesivir -
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab698/6352176


How come the death tolls from Covid have been walked back, but, you are sticking with the narrative of whatever statistics these manipulated numbers are telling you? Who walked back death tolls? Haven't heard of this, sounds like right wing bullshit. Update - Appears this narrative has been driven by right wing pundit twitter with nothing behind it.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/cdc-hasnt-reduced-covid-19-death-toll/

How come you ignore the fact, that the admission of "Those who had a positive Covid test, are marked as a Covid Death, even if they died from something else" clearly inflate the numbers? I don't believe deaths are inflated. I can speak to this, I have 20 years working with hospital software. Procedures are taxed differently based on cause, a hospital artificially inflating covid numbers would cause the to get raped at the first medical audit a hospital faced. There have been audits since covid started and this has not been found.

How come, car accidents and gun shot victims were marked as Covid Deaths and you actually believe the statistics? Again I don't believe this has happened, see taxed procedures above.

How come various medical facilities quietly accounted and stated they inflated Deaths and you ignore them? Once again didn't happen


Why were and are Hospitals being incentivized to diagnose Covid? Do you not see a conflict of true diagnoses? Hospitals receive tax incentives for certain diagnosis to ensure funding for treatment of those diagnosis. If they lie about this, the medical audit system in the US is robust, would result in penalties severe enough that honesty is the policy followed.

PCR tests cannot diagnose Covid, so, why are you accepting a diagnoses from a PCR test? Who is accepting a diagnosis from PCR tests? Reuters, which is consistently rated in bias studies as nuetral, indicates this is false, the CDC report was misrepresented - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2P42U5

Why are you ignoring that the inventor of the PCR test, stated that the PCR should not be used to diagnose anybody? See last question

Why are you ignoring the CDC announced PCR tests actually cannot detect Covid? See last question

Why has there never been proof of the isolation of the virus, outside of who they tell you did it, but, there is a one million dollar bounty for proof of isolation that is still available to any of these "small independent labs" who they keep telling us have done such? This is a falsehood pushed by facebook narratives, literally fake news - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2LS27P


If Ivermectin is so bad, why did the NIH acknowledge how great it was in 2015 and why is the Fed Gov regulating distribution? (If you tell me bullshit like a shortage, I will laugh) The FDA who you said before was a good source says you should not use it. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-u...revent-covid-19

Why were and are Hospitals being paid to place people on ventilators, when they have proven to be ineffective? They haven't been proved ineffective unless you've got a source on that. They do increase blood oxygen but can have side effects.

Why are Dr's, Pharmacy's, Hospitals being given kickback money to prescribe medications and Vaccines if it was about health? This is a meme spread on facebook to discourage people from getting vaxxed. This is how small practices secure funding for procedures. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...e-idUSKBN28D39G

Why do vaccine manufacturers also make drugs for the AE's the vaccines cause? Because medical research companies tend to be large and work on multiple products.

How do you feel about Australia and their approach? Seems too heavy handed to me, but I don't live in Australia. Maybe covid infected kangaroos and giant spiders are terrifying

How do you feel about Sweden and their approach? Looks like sweden didn't do lockdowns and has had more deaths than their neighbors. Imagine that. https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)32750-1/fulltext

How do you feel about the various professionals, who have come out and stated Ivermectin is a miracle drug and being proven such, as high levels in various countries and being bashed in America? There are kooks who will advocate anything. FDA disagrees with them and you told us you care about what the FDA says.

You feel there is wide scale collusion or you think they actually want what's best for you? Covid is far too large for widespread collusion. Too many parties with different interests agreeing on the basic facts.

At what point does complying actually give you your life back? When cases are reduced to the level bird flu is at today most likely. Pandemics end, just takes a few years.

How come Israel has the highest vaccination rate per capita, of any country and also leads the world in Covid cases, if the unvaccinated are the threat? Their vaccination rate is only slightly higher than the US, variants are slipping through. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why\

How come Bill Gates has a chip and has the patent for it? (Thought this was conspiracy theory)
This is one of the more insane sounding covid theories. There is not a micorochip that can be implemented through vaccination. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...a-idUSKBN28E286

How come Bill Gates owns so much farm land? Wtf does this have to do with anything? Who cares?

Why are they trying to put vaccines inside of plants? research is always ongoing on alternate delivery methods for medications. I recall research being done to try and get mosquitos to innoculate against malaria a while back.

How come Bill Gates has MrNA labs through INDIA and is ready for the next PANDEMIC? Seems like a good idea to have labs and be ready. Why not?

How come they announce the return of a Polio like disease months ago? Looks like due to virus coming out through feces and entering the water supply and poor sanitation in 3rd world countries. Still not much of a thing in the us for now. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...-until-it-wasnt

'How come the the Chicago Mayor is openly calling for people to be removed from their home and moved for not complying with the New World Order? Couldn't find anything about this, source?

How come the President of China has also mentioned the New World Order? Sounds like political jargon for some new initiative. Chinas current president has planned well on some fronts and presents tough competition in certain areas.

How come various Australian officials have openly mentioned the New World Order? This is a right wing reaction to their covid lockdowns. Is what it is, will always be those who disagree with policy. Why do you care?

Are all these Politicians from various countries conspiracy theorists or they know something you won't simply admit to? In regards to what? Politicians mentioning new world order? Doesn't have a lot of meaning to me, who cares?

Are all the Dr's who yelled at the FDA during the last hearing anti-Science and not Professionals I should trust? Vast concensus among providers is that covid is a thing and vaccines are effective. YOu can find kooks to advocate anything. F ollow numbers, not video of angry people confirming your suspicions.

Should I not trust the various epidemiologist and virologists who predicted the vaccines would lead to variants and more outbreaks or have changed their stance on the vaccine being good to no longer being good or is that Science ignored? This is a narrative driven by social media, not science. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/no-vaccines-do-not-cause-new-sar










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#512087 - 09/24/21 07:31 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: DrinkDrankCrunk]
Migrantworkers



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Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
trite, who won that arizona audit? saw your other comments but you didn't mention who won.



The only report that I saw a headline for indicated that the margin of victory grew
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#512089 - 09/24/21 08:29 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: Migrantworkers]
DrinkDrankCrunk


Registered: 12/20/08
Posts: 9675
need to hear it from him

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#512092 - 09/25/21 02:35 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: DrinkDrankCrunk]
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Registered: 03/05/08
Posts: 5343
Loc: Rummaging for used socks,
Have any of you fuckers ever experienced anything that'd be considered paranormal?

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#512109 - 09/27/21 02:19 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: Foul]
DrinkDrankCrunk


Registered: 12/20/08
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not really. definitely nothing i couldn't chalk up to being intoxicated.
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#512125 - 09/30/21 04:47 PM Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. [Re: DrinkDrankCrunk]
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Posts: 1059
Loc: MN, USA
I have had a few oddities happen throughout my life. "Shadow People" combined with paralysis when I was younger. Which I'm sure could have a logical explanation... but it was fuckin spooky. I've also had shit flying through the air as if someone chucked it at me. Just to name a couple.
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