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#514100 - 07/17/23 10:56 AM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
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Originally Posted By: Matty
Never understood the 'release the builds' mentality - i know theres alot of different parts of this game but why give away one of the biggest factors because people are bored of trying to figure them out, take away the mystery around builds and its just 'who has the best hiddens' so not even something in peoples power. So basically holding peoples hands to build a perfect build for their style and relying on the hiddens, which Chief already made a few visible of them anyway, like patience etc.
Why dont people just ask chief to give them a fighter, train him perfectly to a style and also tell them their hiddens aswell as fight them for the coach, might aswell have everything handed to you if youre wanting probably the biggest secrets of the game handed out


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#514104 - 07/17/23 04:46 PM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
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Originally Posted By: Matty
Never understood the 'release the builds' mentality - i know theres alot of different parts of this game but why give away one of the biggest factors because people are bored of trying to figure them out, take away the mystery around builds and its just 'who has the best hiddens' so not even something in peoples power. So basically holding peoples hands to build a perfect build for their style and relying on the hiddens, which Chief already made a few visible of them anyway, like patience etc.
Why dont people just ask chief to give them a fighter, train him perfectly to a style and also tell them their hiddens aswell as fight them for the coach, might aswell have everything handed to you if youre wanting probably the biggest secrets of the game handed out


Well said friend.

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#514105 - 07/17/23 06:48 PM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
Zakariya


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Originally Posted By: Matty
Never understood the 'release the builds' mentality - i know theres alot of different parts of this game but why give away one of the biggest factors because people are bored of trying to figure them out, take away the mystery around builds and its just 'who has the best hiddens' so not even something in peoples power. So basically holding peoples hands to build a perfect build for their style and relying on the hiddens, which Chief already made a few visible of them anyway, like patience etc.
Why dont people just ask chief to give them a fighter, train him perfectly to a style and also tell them their hiddens aswell as fight them for the coach, might aswell have everything handed to you if youre wanting probably the biggest secrets of the game handed out


you should have read my post more carefully. the mentality is that is will make the game much more dynamic. we can build fighters with more styles and can switch it up more when having fights.

i only figured out mmartist so its not as if I have never played the game. the thing is i have also played other games and have a good understanding of what makes a game good. also the game is stagnant. its been stagnant for years and years. we aren't going to get any other changes and having more dynamic fighters will be good for the game. it would be more fun if everyone who has ran 1 style for a decade had the ability to change and be more fun. new players would have more fun and possibly stay longer. but like i said the game can't handle more players so its mostly so those of us who are here can have a more dynamic game. we could release the builds and then hide other fighters stats to take something away if you think that would be keeping it at the same "difficult level".


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#514107 - 07/18/23 06:37 AM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Zakariya]
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Same old points being made. The game has had builds mostly revealed shortly before they were reworked. IMO was a fun time for the game as it encouraged more diverse builds and switching became very important. Some people prefer the mystery and build hunting, but after so many years if we're still building the same way is much really going to be discovered? Kind of moot at this point anyway, not likely to be revealed and I don't see a change to that being a big draw for players.

Not sure what Chubby means when he keeps saying the game "Can't handle more players" though. We've had tripple the current numbers and it runs fine. In the past it's had 50 times the current number of fighters and been fine, the game can handle more players on the technical side without much trouble.
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#514108 - 07/18/23 10:09 AM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Zakariya]
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Originally Posted By: Zakariya
Originally Posted By: Matty
Never understood the 'release the builds' mentality - i know theres alot of different parts of this game but why give away one of the biggest factors because people are bored of trying to figure them out, take away the mystery around builds and its just 'who has the best hiddens' so not even something in peoples power. So basically holding peoples hands to build a perfect build for their style and relying on the hiddens, which Chief already made a few visible of them anyway, like patience etc.
Why dont people just ask chief to give them a fighter, train him perfectly to a style and also tell them their hiddens aswell as fight them for the coach, might aswell have everything handed to you if youre wanting probably the biggest secrets of the game handed out


you should have read my post more carefully. the mentality is that is will make the game much more dynamic. we can build fighters with more styles and can switch it up more when having fights.

i only figured out mmartist so its not as if I have never played the game. the thing is i have also played other games and have a good understanding of what makes a game good. also the game is stagnant. its been stagnant for years and years. we aren't going to get any other changes and having more dynamic fighters will be good for the game. it would be more fun if everyone who has ran 1 style for a decade had the ability to change and be more fun. new players would have more fun and possibly stay longer. but like i said the game can't handle more players so its mostly so those of us who are here can have a more dynamic game. we could release the builds and then hide other fighters stats to take something away if you think that would be keeping it at the same "difficult level".


My post may have seemed like a dig at you but it wasnt, it was a general response to the whole release build thing which has been around for years.
I actually agree with your points about there needing to be more reason to play properly which I admittedly dont do with my lazy one build challenge all tactic, but I honestly dont think any changes come thru releasing the biggest secrets of the game

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#514109 - 07/18/23 10:10 AM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: BlimBlapZing]
Matty


Registered: 10/30/08
Posts: 13447
Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Same old points being made. The game has had builds mostly revealed shortly before they were reworked. IMO was a fun time for the game as it encouraged more diverse builds and switching became very important. Some people prefer the mystery and build hunting, but after so many years if we're still building the same way is much really going to be discovered? Kind of moot at this point anyway, not likely to be revealed and I don't see a change to that being a big draw for players.

Not sure what Chubby means when he keeps saying the game "Can't handle more players" though. We've had tripple the current numbers and it runs fine. In the past it's had 50 times the current number of fighters and been fine, the game can handle more players on the technical side without much trouble.


Games definitely had wayyyyyyy more players before, I think the lack of players is a big hindrance because its not nearly as competitive as it was and thus the prestige of grabbing a title is lost and doesnt mean nearly as much

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#514111 - 07/18/23 10:31 PM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
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Loc: FL
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#514119 - 07/19/23 05:53 PM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
Zakariya


Registered: 06/04/11
Posts: 3946
Loc: Ontario
Originally Posted By: Matty
Originally Posted By: Zakariya
Originally Posted By: Matty
Never understood the 'release the builds' mentality - i know theres alot of different parts of this game but why give away one of the biggest factors because people are bored of trying to figure them out, take away the mystery around builds and its just 'who has the best hiddens' so not even something in peoples power. So basically holding peoples hands to build a perfect build for their style and relying on the hiddens, which Chief already made a few visible of them anyway, like patience etc.
Why dont people just ask chief to give them a fighter, train him perfectly to a style and also tell them their hiddens aswell as fight them for the coach, might aswell have everything handed to you if youre wanting probably the biggest secrets of the game handed out


you should have read my post more carefully. the mentality is that is will make the game much more dynamic. we can build fighters with more styles and can switch it up more when having fights.

i only figured out mmartist so its not as if I have never played the game. the thing is i have also played other games and have a good understanding of what makes a game good. also the game is stagnant. its been stagnant for years and years. we aren't going to get any other changes and having more dynamic fighters will be good for the game. it would be more fun if everyone who has ran 1 style for a decade had the ability to change and be more fun. new players would have more fun and possibly stay longer. but like i said the game can't handle more players so its mostly so those of us who are here can have a more dynamic game. we could release the builds and then hide other fighters stats to take something away if you think that would be keeping it at the same "difficult level".


My post may have seemed like a dig at you but it wasnt, it was a general response to the whole release build thing which has been around for years.
I actually agree with your points about there needing to be more reason to play properly which I admittedly dont do with my lazy one build challenge all tactic, but I honestly dont think any changes come thru releasing the biggest secrets of the game


Ok thanks for saying that. I thought that for sure. I really do believe it would make the game more fun.

As far as the game and players goes. I realize more coaches is better but I strictly mean for the amount of lag that comes with more players. For me the game was unplayable about a year ago, because of how long loading times were.
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#514120 - 07/19/23 10:12 PM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Zakariya]
Matty


Registered: 10/30/08
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Chief moved it over to a new, quicker server now so that might explain why its not as bad now

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#514122 - 07/20/23 10:16 AM Re: 2020 Suggestion Thread (All-in-One) [Re: Matty]
MI Yayo


Registered: 05/07/08
Posts: 199
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THC alliance has a serious lack of diversity.

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