I agree with all of that with the caveat of having sufficient fighters to keep all the division competitive and meaningful

Amen to this. When you try to figure out a new style. You first gotta pick some stats you think apply. Then you gotta compete against guys who are using a correct fleshed out build. Which leads to you thinking is this style good vs X or is my build just wrong? (Giving the builds or even the style matchups would help a lot with this). Recently I'm running FF which always absolutely owned PL. I regularly get challenges from PL camps. Am I running the build wrong? Are my fighters shit? Is the style matchup different? I have no idea and I've played and accomplished quite a bit in this game. I can't imagine this for a new player.

Props to dudes who can figure out builds in this type of environment but most people just give up and build something that's already established. That's why 95% of the game has been the same styles forever. Would love to see a bunch of neo footwork or dirty boxing, but will just get standard wrestling build, 8 points, or PG.

There's very little payoff to trying a new style. You just plunge your camp into the abyss fighting dudes who most likely just copied a popular powerful build. Give people motivation to try new options or just continue to do the same 5 styles over and over again.

I don't like the idea of releasing the builds, but I do think we should have more information of how builds work.

We should know whether styles all have the same amount a lefts or not. Same amount of rights or not. Etc.

All styles don't have the same amount of lefts and rights. This has been answered already.

I'm just speaking generally. The framework of the builds should be known but not the builds themselves, imo.

but frankly, that would be my suggestion. Each build should be two lefts and 3 rights, with conditioning helping all builds. And the sister style should share a left and 2 rights.

so to build a full switch you'd have 3 lefts 4 rights and conditioning.

I've always maintained with so many variables it's too tough to figure out the builds.

I think for a new player it could make a world of difference for actually understanding the game before burning out. This isn't the most entertaining thing in the world anyway. Release one striking build, one submission build, and one wrestling build that new players can utilize to understand the basics of how the game even works. Besides that if it's really the "intrique of the builds" that keeps you coming back they can be re-worked after release anyway. Chief already had that SNB camp where he showed how to build SNB and still nobody used it lol. It also didn't blow the game wide open or anything like that. Idk just chucking out ideas to add some freshness to the game.

Another option would be to reveal the lefts for all builds and leave the rights a mystery.

Has been discussed a lot. Game did have the builds mostly revealed for a while before the last style add and rework. Found it to be a fun time personally, became much more about combining styles and guessing switches than it is now.

All paired styles share 1-2 lefts

I understand that. What I was suggesting is that all builds be uniform.

Each build should have 6 main stats. 2 lefts and 3 rights. The sister style would share 1 left and 1 right. So a complete build would be 3 lefts and 5 rights.

This would be true of every style/build. This gives slightly less variables when trying to figure out a build.


some builds having more lefts than others or more rights than others makes it difficult.

I think the importance of the stats should be uniform as well. If it's 5 stats 1 left should be most important then 1 right should be second then the other left and then the remaining rights in whatever order.